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Old 05-04-2007, 04:05 AM
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Xp & Evr

Andrew can you confirm that TT users with the ".NET Framework 3.0 Redistributable" will be able to use EVR with TT?

And if not, why?
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Old 05-04-2007, 04:24 AM
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Just tried it, and TT won't let you select it from the config page but it does work in xp with a custom graph:

<GRAPH version="1.0">
<FILTER ID="ReClock" clsid="{9DC15360-914C-46B8-B9DF-BFE67FD36C6A}">
<FILTER ID="ffdshow_Audio_Decoder" clsid="{0F40E1E5-4F79-4988-B1A9-CC98794E6B55}">
<FILTER ID="Enhanced_Video_Renderer" clsid="{FA10746C-9B63-4B6C-BC49-FC300EA5F256}">
<FILTER ID="Sonic_Audio" clsid="{9F062738-CD84-4F54-A3C4-BD5EB44F416B}">
<FILTER ID="WMV_Decoder" clsid="{94297043-BD82-4DFD-B0DE-8177739C6D20}">
<FILTER ID="Haali" clsid="{55DA30FC-F16B-49FC-BAA5-AE59FC65F82D}">
<PARAM name="src"/>
<render src="Haali" srcpinnum="1"/>
<render src="Haali" srcpinnum="2"/>
</GRAPH>

I'm not sure reclock will like it.
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Old 05-04-2007, 05:44 AM
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I think there are some problems with EVR in XP .
Aspect ratio (example DVD) , crash with some decoders ... and so on.

In Vista is "Ok" ... no more reclock ?

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Old 05-04-2007, 06:02 AM
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yeah, in xp with tt it works with vc1 hddvds using the wmvideo dmo decoder but not with cyberlink avc nor dsclaer ivtc. Same goes for the haali renderer.

Alot slower than vmr9 as gpu acceleration won't work.

Anyway, if anyone wants to try it, download the ".NET Framework 3.0 Redistributable" and then start run:

regsvr32 C:\Windows\System32\evr.dll
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Old 05-04-2007, 08:58 AM
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EVR is only available with vista
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Old 05-04-2007, 09:03 AM
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This is the graph for the DVD with ffdshow video and default audio renderer

To manage the graphs (GRF) with EVR the version of GraphEdit 061030 is needed: http://files.commo.de/graphedit_061030.zip


http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/1...titulo1bx1.jpg

HTML Code:
<GRAPH version="1.0">
	<FILTER ID="Default_DirectSound_Device" clsid="{79376820-07D0-11CF-A24D-0020AFD79767}">
	</FILTER>
	<FILTER ID=[b]"Enhanced_Video_Renderer" clsid="{FA10746C-9B63-4B6C-BC49-FC300EA5F256}"[/b]>
	</FILTER>
	<FILTER ID="NVIDIA_Audio_Decoder" clsid="{6C0BDF86-C36A-4D83-8BDB-312D2EAF409E}">
	</FILTER>
	<FILTER ID="ffdshow_Video_Decoder" clsid="{04FE9017-F873-410E-871E-AB91661A4EF7}">
	</FILTER>
	<FILTER ID="NVIDIA_Video_Decoder" clsid="{71E4616A-DB5E-452B-8CA5-71D9CC7805E9}">
	</FILTER>
	<FILTER ID="Source_0" clsid="{9B8C4620-2C1A-11D0-8493-00A02438AD48}">
	</FILTER>
	<connect direct="yes" src="Source_0" srcpin="Video" dest="NVIDIA_Video_Decoder" destpin="Video Input"/>
	<connect direct="yes" src="Source_0" srcpin="AC3" dest="NVIDIA_Audio_Decoder" destpin="Audio Input"/>
	<connect direct="yes" src="Source_0" srcpin="SubPicture" dest="NVIDIA_Video_Decoder" destpin="Subpicture Input"/>
	<connect direct="yes" src="NVIDIA_Audio_Decoder" srcpin="Audio Output" dest="Default_DirectSound_Device" destpin="Audio Input pin (rendered)"/>
	<connect direct="yes" src="NVIDIA_Video_Decoder" srcpin="Video Output" dest="ffdshow_Video_Decoder" destpin="In"/>
	<connect direct="yes" src="ffdshow_Video_Decoder" srcpin="Out" dest="Enhanced_Video_Renderer" destpin="EVR Input0"/>
</GRAPH>

The commands of regulation video they don't work and the aspect ratio is out standard
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Old 05-04-2007, 09:16 AM
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EVR is only available with vista
I have it working with xp. That's what this thread is about. Lots of people are using evr with xp. Try reading the thread before posting.

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Old 05-04-2007, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by DMD View Post
This is the graph for the DVD with ffdshow video and default audio renderer

To manage the graphs (GRF) with EVR the version of GraphEdit 061030 is needed: http://files.commo.de/graphedit_061030.zip


http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/1...titulo1bx1.jpg

<GRAPH version="1.0">
<FILTER ID="Default_DirectSound_Device" clsid="{79376820-07D0-11CF-A24D-0020AFD79767}">
</FILTER>
<FILTER ID="Enhanced_Video_Renderer" clsid="{FA10746C-9B63-4B6C-BC49-FC300EA5F256}">
</FILTER>
<FILTER ID="NVIDIA_Audio_Decoder" clsid="{6C0BDF86-C36A-4D83-8BDB-312D2EAF409E}">
</FILTER>
<FILTER ID="ffdshow_Video_Decoder" clsid="{04FE9017-F873-410E-871E-AB91661A4EF7}">
</FILTER>
<FILTER ID="NVIDIA_Video_Decoder" clsid="{71E4616A-DB5E-452B-8CA5-71D9CC7805E9}">
</FILTER>
<FILTER ID="Source_0" clsid="{9B8C4620-2C1A-11D0-8493-00A02438AD48}">
</FILTER>
<connect direct="yes" src="Source_0" srcpin="Video" dest="NVIDIA_Video_Decoder" destpin="Video Input"/>
<connect direct="yes" src="Source_0" srcpin="AC3" dest="NVIDIA_Audio_Decoder" destpin="Audio Input"/>
<connect direct="yes" src="Source_0" srcpin="SubPicture" dest="NVIDIA_Video_Decoder" destpin="Subpicture Input"/>
<connect direct="yes" src="NVIDIA_Audio_Decoder" srcpin="Audio Output" dest="Default_DirectSound_Device" destpin="Audio Input pin (rendered)"/>
<connect direct="yes" src="NVIDIA_Video_Decoder" srcpin="Video Output" dest="ffdshow_Video_Decoder" destpin="In"/>
<connect direct="yes" src="ffdshow_Video_Decoder" srcpin="Out" dest="Enhanced_Video_Renderer" destpin="EVR Input0"/>
</GRAPH>


The commands of regulation video they don't work and the aspect ratio is out standard
DMD, can you get evr to work with dscaler and cyberlink avc1? I just get a blank screen.
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Old 05-04-2007, 09:48 AM
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DMD, can you get evr to work with dscaler and cyberlink avc1? I just get a blank screen.
With DScaler and Cyberlink I have not tried yet, as soon as possible I will make some tests.
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Old 05-04-2007, 09:59 AM
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With DScaler and Cyberlink I have not tried yet, as soon as possible I will make some tests.
I got it working with avc, but had to use core, as cyberlink just gave still frames.

<GRAPH version="1.0">
<FILTER ID="ReClock" clsid="{9DC15360-914C-46B8-B9DF-BFE67FD36C6A}">
<FILTER ID="ffdshow_Audio_Decoder" clsid="{0F40E1E5-4F79-4988-B1A9-CC98794E6B55}">
<FILTER ID="Enhanced_Video_Renderer" clsid="{FA10746C-9B63-4B6C-BC49-FC300EA5F256}">
<FILTER ID="CoreAVC_Video_Decoder" clsid="{09571A4B-F1FE-4C60-9760-DE6D310C7C31}">
<FILTER ID="Haali" clsid="{55DA30FC-F16B-49FC-BAA5-AE59FC65F82D}">
<PARAM name="src"/>
<render src="Haali" srcpinnum="1"/>
<render src="Haali" srcpinnum="2"/>
</GRAPH>
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Old 05-04-2007, 10:01 AM
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Dscaler works:

<GRAPH version="1.0">
<FILTER ID="ReClock" clsid="{9DC15360-914C-46B8-B9DF-BFE67FD36C6A}">
<FILTER ID="ffdshow_Audio_Decoder" clsid="{0F40E1E5-4F79-4988-B1A9-CC98794E6B55}">
<FILTER ID="Enhanced_Video_Renderer" clsid="{FA10746C-9B63-4B6C-BC49-FC300EA5F256}">
<FILTER ID="DScaler_Mpeg2_Video_Decoder" clsid="{F8904F1F-0371-4471-8866-90E6281ABDB6}">
<FILTER ID="Haali" clsid="{55DA30FC-F16B-49FC-BAA5-AE59FC65F82D}">
<PARAM name="src"/>
<render src="Haali" srcpinnum="1"/>
<render src="Haali" srcpinnum="2"/>
</GRAPH>

I now have vc1, dvd, avc, dscaler ivtc working with both evr and haali video renderer!
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Old 05-04-2007, 11:03 AM
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I am very interested in the benefits of evr. I have VMR9 renderless working beautifully with Reclock and auto-changing refresh rates. EVR may fix the clock problems that reclock addresses, but would, I think, still leave me without being able to change refresh rates. The quality benefits would have to be pretty great to want to suffer that!

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Old 05-04-2007, 12:18 PM
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EVR may fix the clock problems that reclock addresses
Any more info on that?
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Old 05-04-2007, 01:08 PM
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Included in the Vista Platform SDK. (Build 061030) also includes the file evrprop.dll which you can register to get the property dialog for the EVR in GraphEdit.

Anyone have evrprop.dll?
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Old 05-04-2007, 01:52 PM
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Any more info on that?
Well it is supposed to correct the problems which DirectShow introduced and which reclock fixed. I trust that is true. But Reclock is the only way I know to automate changes to refresh rates depending on media (48hz (or 72Hz), 50hz and 60hz) and have yet to see anything anywhere on how to do it with EVR. It may be possible, I am sure it will come, but for now it is another reason to stick with trusty old XP and VMR9.

But I'm very interested to hear peoples experience with EVR and how it is better than VMR9-renderless with Reclock.
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Old 05-04-2007, 02:34 PM
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Well it is supposed to correct the problems which DirectShow introduced and which reclock fixed.
Sounds great - but whether it has this functionality with xp I don't know.
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Old 05-04-2007, 03:12 PM
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Very true.

Or indeed with Vista. We need some solid feedback to confirm.
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Old 05-04-2007, 04:31 PM
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Guys, I love what you are doing here. Also, I have the evrprop.dll.
I'll make a zip of that. Blame me if it's illegal ...

Edit : here it is ...
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File Type: zip evrprop.zip (104.6 KB, 233 views)

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Old 05-04-2007, 04:38 PM
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No stutters at all in Vista with EVR ... until now.
1280x720P 50 Hz (Pal land ) , quality seems good .
But I have also XP ... too soon to completely switch to Vista.

I have not tested EVR in XP.

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Old 05-04-2007, 04:41 PM
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Antonio : haha, yours is bigger. Must be better.
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